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NCIS - My fannish journey
Unlike some fandoms NCIS is a very open to all and every pairing fandom and that is one of the many reasons I love it so much. ( At least it is here on LJ, from a few comments I have heard over the years I've been involved  sadly it isn't quite the same on some lists).

So I don't see Gibbs/DiNozzo as a couple (the main pairing) but that doesn't matter, no one shoots me down or even tells me I'm wrong or anything like that, it's just accepted. I see a father & son, boss & subordinate relationship, I see respect, I see hero worship on DiNozzo's behalf, I see fondness, liking, a would kill for or die for, but I don't see romance or sex.

And the same is true for many people who don't see Gibbs/Ducky. They see friendship (I have never met any NCIS fan who has denied how important Ducky is to Gibbs and their extremely close friendship), fraternal love, but not romance and/or sex.

And similar things can be said about all pairings in NCIS. Some people see A/B some B/C some A/C some D/B some C/D, etc. etc. etc. And some don't see the pairings as romantic, just as friendship, some don't really even see any connection at all. Some folk just love the show and ship no one at all. Some folk ship all and every pairings, some a handful, some only one, etc. etc.

But none of that matters in LJ NCIS fandom. We co-exist happily, we can play in our own pairing sandbox, but just as happily we can play in multi-pairings sandboxes.

I've been involved now in NCIS fandom since June 2005 (which is when I wrote my first story and admitted it was a fandom).

To date I have written:

460 - Gibbs/Ducky stories
052 - Abby/McGee stories
072 - General Series stories, which includes a mixture of gen, het and slash
584 - Stories in total

And I still have a lot of WIPs and bunnies hoping around.

So how did I get to where I am today? Well if you're bored, click the LJ cut and find out.

In May 2004 my good friend maubast sent me an email which included 'Speaking (in a roundabout way *g*) of David McCallum, do you watch Navy NCIS, or is it shown over there?' (We had been discussing The Man From U.N.C.L.E. and Sapphire & Steel - another two shows in which he stared).

I emailed back to say no and she kindly offered to send me some episodes - which she dutifully did.

For one reason or another (and I really don't know why, but I think it was because I was heavily involved in watching MFU episodes) I never got around to watching them at the time she sent them.

In December 2004 I made a post here on my then brand spanking new LJ saying: 'Well I've finally [sheepish grin] got around to watching my first ever episode of Navy NCIS [waves to maubast] and I already love it. And am now so happy that I have lots more to watch.

Isn't Ducky just wonderful [sigh].

In February 2005, when we were living in rented accommodation and house-hunting post our 'big move to Scotland, I posted about it again. What I said is, four years later, highly amusing.

I have also been watching several (I refuse to say how many) NCIS Season Two episodes. I am, in fact, beginning to think of offering them my services, having spotted the perp as soon as they appeared to in most of the episodes.

I do not see any slash in NCIS, none at all. I am aware that there are several couples - some slash, some het - but I personally do not see any pairing. If someone held a gun to my head and demanded that I came up with a slash couple, it would have to be Gibbs/Ducky. The reasons for this being: Gibbs is less unpleasant to Ducky - well apart from not letting him finish his stories - than he is to anyone else; Ducky calls Gibbs Jethro and they have a relationship that goes back many years, and they are clearly very comfortable with one another.

However, this doesn't, for me at least, constitute a slash relationship in this show, but it would be the pairing I'd go with if absolutely forced to. My main reason for watching NCIS is Ducky, however, I do also like Gibbs.

Okay, have you all stopped laughing yet? Good. I shall continue.

In May 2005, I did a Fandom Meme which asked about current fandoms and most recent fandom. NCIS did not appear - The Man From U.N.C.L.E. was listed as my 'most recent fandom'.

Then in June 2005, as a result of a discussion on a YH MFU list where people were discussing the 'is Ducky Illya' and saying how they didn't like the idea of Illya with anyone other than Napoleon, and having seen 'The Meat Puzzle' I wrote my very first NCIS story - well a crossover with MFU. It was called Brothers In Love.

A week later I posted my first sole Gibbs/Ducky - Death Changes Everything. And the rest, as they say, is history

In July 2005 I did a OTP meme and Gibbs/Ducky appeared - but in third place (behind Napoleon/Illya and Bodie/Doyle).

Also in July maubast and I set up rare_pair, a community for rare/minority pairings (both slash and het) as we both had at least one minority pairing. My main one being Gibbs/Ducky, which was at the time very rare indeed - make that pretty much non-existent.

And from then I on I continued to post at least one Gibbs/Ducky story, usually more, each month and I was getting feedback from a handful of people and finding out there were other people out there who saw and loved Gibbs/Ducky.

In October 2005 I wrote a ship_manifesto essay about them entitled Old Friends And Lovers.

And in the same month I embarked on my first LJ Fanfic Challenge - fanfic100 for Gibbs/Ducky - and by that time I had already written twenty-one stories. Twenty-one stories about this pairing, twenty-one stories in a fandom where, a mere eight months earlier I had publicly stated: I do not see any slash in NCIS, none at all.

In October/November/December 2005 I was posting theories and writing meta posts about the show, writing about the character ranting about things, etc.

And then on 5th December 2005 I posted to say that I had set up ncis_gibbsducky saying Given my current obsession interest, I guess it was only a matter of time before I gave in and created a Community dedicated solely to Gibbs/Ducky. (It's actually my first LJ-Anniversary present to myself *g*)

It's all right, I'm not going to document the next three and a bit years month by month, you will no doubt be relieved to know. Suffice to say during that time I went on writing stories, I started to make wallpaper, banners, icons and other graphics (graphics aren't my skill, but I enjoy making them - which is the important thing, right?).

I wrote an idol_reflection on each of them More Questions Than Answers (Gibbs) and Older Not Dead (Ducky); took up more challenges, began writing episode reviews, which started off as pure G/D squee and have now evolved into so much more and lived, breathed and slept NCIS - well Gibbs/Ducky.

I had always been a slash fan and only a slash fan, and I never dreamt I'd venture beyond writing slash, certainly not in a fandom where I wrote slash. However, NCIS (which is a first in so many ways) once again proved me wrong. I had always seen Abby/McGee as a couple (well they were canon) and I had for a while wrote them a sub-pairing, or simply mentioned them, in several G/D stories, but one day my bunny demanded more.

So in April 2007 I wrote my very first Abby/McGee story. Of course it had to be a death story (for the romantic I am, I write a lot of death stories) and had to imply G/D as a couple, but nonetheless G/D didn't appear (they were dead) and the story was an Abby/McGee story.

And then I started to include Abby/McGee in several of my 12_stories fanfic challenges.

Then in December 2007, I took up my first sole Abby/McGee challenge when leda_speaks started her fanfic challenge comm - drabble123.

Thus, by the end of 2007, it was safe to say that I now had two NCIS OTPs - and my first serious het OTP ever.

And by March 2008, I had written at least one Abby/McGee story for each letter of the alphabet.

But it was still all OTP stuff and whilst many of my stories, in particular my Gibbs/Ducky ones, included the team either in full or in part, I was still only writing pairings and as it's been my way for the ten years I've been in fandom, I never expected anything to change.

And then Judgment Day aired. And suddenly there I was at the end of May 2008 writing ten (yes, I don't do things by halves) gen drabbles, based on the final scene and my take on events thereafter.

Less than three months later I started to try my hand at more General Series stories, thanks (again) to leda_speaks who had some time earlier resurrected ncis_drabble and was coming up with some wonderful weekly prompts.

And suddenly I found myself not only writing gen, but also writing femmeslash (Jenny/Ziva - a couple who I had always seen right back to the airing of 'Kill Ari', but whom I had never cared about enough to want to write) and a variety of DiNozzo based het (DiNozzo/Jeanne, DiNozzo/Ziva and, thanks to philleegirl who in effect 'invented' this pairing DiNozzo/Maddie Tyler).

And if that wasn't enough I undertook two fanfic challenges for NCIS General Series 50ficlets (which I completed recently) and my own 100tri_drabbles.

And now, nearly nine months after I wrote my first NCIS General Series story I have written at least one gen story for all the 'main' NCIS characters, gen stories that involve more than one character, several Jenny/Ziva stories, and a fair few DiNozzo/with one of the above-mentioned three women stories. Oh, and I have also written at least one story for every letter of the alphabet.

But still I wasn't writing outside of my OTPs, well not entirely. However, I do have three stories in which Gibbs/Fornell (a pairing I really do see and were it not for Ducky I fully believe they would have become my OTP) 'feature': One Shot (Fornell is dying and kisses Gibbs); You Bastard (for reasons unknown to either Fornell or Ducky Gibbs kisses Fornell knowing that Ducky will see - note to self: you had intended this to be a series, get on and explain why Gibbs did what he did!) and most recently Finally At Peace (Gibbs takes Fornell to bed because he is dying). And I realised that all three of them have one theme in common: Fornell's unrequited (at least up until one final night) love for Gibbs. Nonetheless all the stories were also Gibbs/Ducky stories.

And also looking through my somewhat large NCIS WIP folder I realise that I have two WIPs that, again are primarily Gibbs/Ducky stories, but will include Gibbs/McGee (another pairing I can oh so easily see - especially in the more recent seasons).

So have I stopped being a hard and fast OTP person?

In truth, given Gibbs's four marriages, I guess to an extent I have had to depart from the strict limits of OTP, as unless I was going to write totally AR and/or AU stories, one cannot ignore the four wives, Jenny Shepard and Hollis Mann. And as such at times Gibbs/female character has appeared in stories, not in any depth, but at least referred to and in some cases Gibbs/woman has played almost as large a part as Gibbs/Ducky.

I don't have an instant answer to the above question,. It is something I shall have to ponder, but for me it's very interesting and somewhat surprising.

Anyway that is the writing side of my NCIS journey.

The reading side, oddly enough is considerably shorter - but not without it's surprises.

As a hard and fast OTP person in the old fashioned sense of the word, I don't read outside of my pairing. Nor do I tend to read gen - for me fanfic is about something different. It's not about hot sex, not at all, but it's about what I can't get from mainstream fic and thus I tend to only stick to slash. So for most of the time I only read Gibbs/Ducky slash.

Then sageharper started to write her wonderful Abby/McGee 'Lola' series (that did include Gibbs/Ducky as a pairing). This not only got me into reading her Abby/McGee stories it got me to read and enjoy kiddy-fic (eyes, Sage). And from then on I was reading the odd Abby/McGee story, but primarily I was still only reading Gibbs/Ducky.

And then I signed up to drive the NCIS crack_van van (which I've now done three times and have signed up to do for a fourth time). The first drive was pretty much all Gibbs/Ducky (although it did include one of Sage's Abby/McGee Gibbs/Ducky stories and the cross-over was Gibbs/Ducky & Fraser/Vecchio [Due South</i> written by aingeal8c).

In my second drive I departed slightly (as as well as the G/D, A/Mc/G/D, and another G/D/F/V story) it and included a wonderful Gibbs & McGee gen story (oh, it was death - yes, I do have this penchant for death stories, it seems) O Captain! My Captain by enthused_fish. So we had a slight departure from the 'norm'.

But it was in my third round that I really 'branched out. As well as my 'usual' Gibbs/Ducky and Abby/McGee stories I recc'd:

- A DiNozzo/Maddie het story - During In The Zone by philleegirl.
- A Ducky & Abby gen story that had a teeny bit of Jimmy/Michelle het - Tea And Company by periwinkle27 (more known in this fandom for her Gibbs/Ducky stories).
- A Gibbs & Fornell gen (death) story - Toll by dragonessasmith.

So really none of these were 'shocking' I was now writing DiNozzo/Maddie, I love Gibbs & Fornell and Ducky & Abby.

However, then I managed to shall we say stun quite a few of my flist (see comments) as I recc'd

- A Gibbs/McGee story - Little Boy Lost by redvelvetribbon.

But it was a one-off, right?


Well that is until fairly recently.

To begin with one of my favourite Gibbs/Ducky writers, ashley_pitt, branched out and started to write the occasional Gibbs/Fornell and Abby/Ziva story - and I found myself reading them. The former isn't that surprising, not really - I do love the pairing - the latter more so I ship Abby/McGee and when I write femmeslash it's Jenny/Ziva. But I like Ashley's writing, so I read them. But Ashley's a good friend, so . . . (me thinks the lady doth protest too much).

Anyway a week or so ago I had gone to The NCIS Fanfiction Archive actually to see if I could help out someone who had requested on ncisficfind some DiNozzo/Jimmy stories (I would venture to guess - but I may be totally wrong - that the request arose from the most recent episode 'Bounce').

However, upon getting there, rather than go to DiNozzo/Other I found myself going to Gibbs/Other and searching firstly for 'Fornell' and then 'McGee'. Sadly I only found one G/F story, which I not only read, but saved but . . .  I found several Gibbs/McGee stories and I then tracked the person to LJ (slash4femme) and spent quite some time reading her superb series of Gibbs/McGee stories, and then also reading her Ducky/Fornell story! And giving feedback and asking for more.

You can look out for some non-G/D recs when I next drive the crack_van NCIS van.

And that is my NCIS reading journey, as I said much shorter than my writing, but maybe in some ways more shocking.

So what has happened? How did Nikki go pretty much over-night from being a hard-core OTP person in both writing and reading to a teeny 'slip', to actively searching out stories that 'break' her OPT?

Maybe it was inevitable given how intense my involvement has been/is in the fandom. Also that fact that whilst Gibbs & Ducky are my favourite characters I love them all and it really is an ensemble show where the team are very much family.

If there is anyone who has made it through this meander - thank you *hands out virtual cookies* - and I hope you enjoyed it.

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caffyolay From: caffyolay Date: 5th March 2009 15:10 (UTC) (Link)
*Munches on cookie* and says how much I enjoyed reading about your NCIS journey. I shall be rejoining the journey myself when Buffy is concluded (we're almost at the end of season 6). Also have to confess (in small voice) that when we were watching I very much *did* see Gibbs/Dinozzo and looked forward every ep to that slap around the head. Not to mention waiting avidly for the moments Gibbs kisses Abby on the cheek. Lots to love about this series and had NO IDEA you'd been with it since 2005!
nakeisha From: nakeisha Date: 5th March 2009 16:15 (UTC) (Link)
Hee. I'm glad you're enjoying your cookie :-)

And I'm really glad you enjoyed my rambling story. I am also really pleased to hear how much you're still enjoying Buffy. It's such a good season.

*Chuckles* ah, did you now? I love the Gibbs & Abby moments, but personally I only see them as father & daughter, but can clearly see why folk can ship them.

It's been quite a few years. I think what is so surprising is that I still haven't run out of ideas - but maybe that is partly due to expanding my horizons, so to speak.
curly_the_sue From: curly_the_sue Date: 5th March 2009 15:12 (UTC) (Link)
I did go through this and enjoyed it very much! :)

You are so right about NCIS being an open fandom. I myself, as you know, also ship a quite uncommon pair (although it got more attention thanks to "Recoil") and other fans, although not agreeing, are open to it and at least ponder it, discuss it with me, etc.
NCIS-fans tend to be awesome. xD

Your journey was an interesting one. I really enjoyed going back with you (to a time where we haven't met yet) and indeed your first comment about not seeing ships is quite hilarious now.
I have such a development too: In the beginning of my fan-being I was immediatly a Tony/Ziva-shipper, which is now incredible to me, since this is one of the ships I clearly don't see anymore.
The idea of Ziva/Gibbs occurred to me out of a joke, more or less. I played Ziva in a rpg where Tony/Kate was already established and since we all agreed that rpg is much more fun with pairings, Ziva needed a partner... and a friend suggested Gibbs. At first I couldn't see that at all, but slowly I began to like the idea. And once we were playing I suddenly was a shipper deluxe. :)

I am still quite focused on my OTP but also thanks to you my reading habits are not restricted to it. :)
Probably it is, as you suggested, a development based on your intense involvment in the fandom.
nakeisha From: nakeisha Date: 5th March 2009 16:21 (UTC) (Link)
Another 'crazy' soul *g* I hope you enjoy the virtual cookie. Thank you for reading and I'm so glad you enjoyed it.

From time to time I wait for the other shoe to drop and someone to pop up and start to slag pairings off, etc. But then I think that there are so many people involved who are so open and so protective of keeping the fandom open to all that it wouldn't be tolerated. And a lot of the user information on various comms points out that no flaming will be tolerated.

I laughed so much when I re-read that comment I'd made - I hadn't remembered it as being quite so definite *chuckles*

Now I've learnt something there too, I had no idea you shipped Tony/Ziva in the beginning, how interesting. All the more so, as you say, because you now no longer see it at all.

It's really lovely, I think, how those things happen. How wonderful.

*Smiles* Aww, thank you.

I think it is, yes. I really do.

Thanks again for reading my rambles.
yehwellwhatever From: yehwellwhatever Date: 5th March 2009 16:22 (UTC) (Link)
That was quite a long and interesting journey. I think NCIS must be the fandom with the most pairings in it.
nakeisha From: nakeisha Date: 5th March 2009 16:45 (UTC) (Link)
*Hands over virtual cookie*

Thank you - I'm glad you enjoyed it.

I would think it would be way up there, yes. Buffy maybe has more/the same, especially if you take Buffyverse as one encompassing fandom. But I honestly don't know. I'm not involved.

And we all get on so well.
ashley_pitt From: ashley_pitt Date: 5th March 2009 16:34 (UTC) (Link)
*enjoys cookie*

I brought the expresso.


I am still smiling at the I do not see any slash in NCIS, none at all comment.

That is an interesting journey.

Thanks for your comment. I am glad that I could help you branch out too.
My OTP is still G/D, but it is just too much fun to not to read or write the occasional other story.
A credit to the open-ness of the fandom, I think.
nakeisha From: nakeisha Date: 5th March 2009 16:46 (UTC) (Link)
Hee. Another person who made it through.

*Giggles* And good it is too.

Yes *wry grin* I hadn't remembered my comment as being quite so definite as that *g*

Thank you. I'm so glad you enjoyed my journey.

But of course it is. And having fun is what it is all about, it really is.

Oh, yes. Very, very much so.

Thank you for reading.
paranoid_woman From: paranoid_woman Date: 5th March 2009 17:04 (UTC) (Link)
WOW, that is a LOT of fic!! Awesome!!
nakeisha From: nakeisha Date: 5th March 2009 17:08 (UTC) (Link)
It is, rather yes.

Thank you.
k1mono From: k1mono Date: 5th March 2009 18:26 (UTC) (Link)
Hi Hon, have to add my bit to the discussion.

Although as you know I haven't been involved in NCIS for a very very long time, but it was the fandom which I did most of my writings.

Despite seeing only a few of the seasons and missing out a great deal, I can only judge from memory.
What I saw besides the OTP of Gibbs and Ducky was the whole family feel of the group. Each member in my eyes fitted into a family role in some way.
I saw deep friendship, closeness, people being guided, loved, cherished, and all the signs of a close community.
Perhaps this is one reason why so many parings seem to fit regardless of personal preferences.
I can see how the branches of the family tree as it where are extending in your writings and readings about not only G/D and MCGee and Abby, also Fornell and Ducky etc etc.

Despite not being involved anymore, not to say it will be absent forever. I say long may it continue to enrapture writers and readers for many more seasons and beyond.

For me at the moment writing has ceased for the time being, and NCIS has been replaced by Bodie and Doyle, but that doesn't mean it is forgotten. A girl can't have too many fandoms can she? ( wink wink)

HUGS TO YOU xxxxxxxxxxxxx

nakeisha From: nakeisha Date: 6th March 2009 13:02 (UTC) (Link)
Hi, hon,

:::Hugs tightly::: Lovely to see you here.

I know you haven't, which is sad, but if something stops grabbing you it does. And lovely stories you wrote too.

*Nods* Very much so. They are family and that is wonderful.

And I'd agree with that too, they do all love and like and respect one another.

Now that could be the case, indeed. It would be nice to think that (again it doesn't always happen as in the slash vs gen wars in some fandoms you have the main pairing deep and close friends and yet slash vs gen wars go on. It makes me sad because people go on about how wonderful it is that the pairing are such good friends and so close and then go and bash one another because Group A see slash and Group B don't).

Whatever it is, NCIS is wonderful for it.

I like that analogy.

It would be nice to see you back. I do hope the fandom and family continues.

Indeed she can't. And I'm so glad you have found the joy that is Bodie & Doyle.

Thank you for stopping by. *Hugs*
femme_slash_fan From: femme_slash_fan Date: 5th March 2009 18:53 (UTC) (Link)

Lack of a namecheck much?

I'm kidding really but... yeah Jenny/Ziva might be my fault a little.. sorry. X.X

also, trying to join 2 of those fannish comms ya mentioned... especially as I now have a permenant Gibbs/Ducky addiction (thanks!!)

so yeah... be warned.
nakeisha From: nakeisha Date: 6th March 2009 13:12 (UTC) (Link)

Re: Lack of a namecheck much?

:-) You may well have had something to do with it. I saw it from Day One, but never cared enough to write it - until last year.

Hee. My pleasure *bats eyelashes* Have duly approved.

I am duly warned.
donutsweeper From: donutsweeper Date: 5th March 2009 19:04 (UTC) (Link)
very interesting read!

I think it's interesting how some people qualify themselves as slashers or only supporting of a specific pairing. It's nice when people can branch out.
nakeisha From: nakeisha Date: 6th March 2009 13:15 (UTC) (Link)
*Hands over virtual cookie*

Thank you. I'm glad you found my meanderings interesting.

My fannish 'history' comes from buddy shows, so I'm really only used to one pairing and in most cases a third lead character in the form of the pairings boss. Thus NCIS is a first for me in many, many ways. It certainly has been great fun to branch out into writing other genres and pairings, even if they have only been ficlets.
plutos_revenge From: plutos_revenge Date: 5th March 2009 19:58 (UTC) (Link)
Oooh, that's very interesting! I'm sure I'll have more thinky thoughts later, but it's been one of those days! *makes note to re-read on Saturday*

Of course, I'm shaking my head sadly at your lack of G/Di but that's to be expected *g*

Have you read Ausiello's latest? Gah.....
nakeisha From: nakeisha Date: 6th March 2009 13:19 (UTC) (Link)
*Hands over another virtual cookie*

Thank you for reading. I'm glad you found it interesting.

*Chuckles* I know the feeling; I constantly shake my head over people who can't see G/D *g* But I've tried so hard to see G/Di - and all the more so since I made G/Di friends as even if I personally don't see it I really like to be able to see what they see. But . . . *Sighs*

Yes, I have. I quite like Tony/Ziva as a pairing, but I really don't want an entire four-plus episode arc devoted to their relationship and hints of doom and gloom and bad things happening. For me that's not what NCIS is about.

Also with SB's 'possibly' to 'is one of them leaving' you starting thinking (well I do) 'oh, no, not another death'.
aingeal8c From: aingeal8c Date: 5th March 2009 23:03 (UTC) (Link)

What a journey you've had!

So interesting to read about it from the beginning. I love how you didn't slash at first my how things have changed hee hee. Intersting how it all slotted inbto place. I can'r imagine you not being a G/D shipper now.

I remember some of those early posts (my over 3 years ago). I have this very strong memory of being fascinated by one of your early G/D icons as I had no idea who they were ;-)

I admit I was surprised when you started branching out and I can't believe how far you have done so. In a good way I hasten to add. I find it interesting how you now even read and write fics that break your OTP. Shocked. But in a good way.

Lovely ot read about how it all evolved though and I saw a lot of it. Hee. But it;s been completely natural hasn't it? Where can you go next I wonder....

But yes thank you for sharing I knew your post on this would be interesting and it is indeed.
nakeisha From: nakeisha Date: 6th March 2009 13:22 (UTC) (Link)
*Keeps handing out virtual cookies*


Indeed, I have.

Ah, yes, that post was certainly eye-opening *grins* Nor can I.

Yes, I remember that too.

*Smiles* I know you were - nor can I at times *g* Why thank you. And it's like you in dS, you've branched out too. But writing they aren't too broken, as they are still G/D as well. But I confess I have been enjoying reading G/Mc *shakes head at self*

I'm so glad you enjoyed the evolution - yes you have. It has indeed. Don't ask :-)

Thank you for reading and I'm really pleased you found it interesting.
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nialla42 From: nialla42 Date: 6th March 2009 05:02 (UTC) (Link)
I am in only another fandom beside that, and it's Stargate: Atlantis, (and years ago I was into the Stargate SG1 one) and there's a real *fight* about pairings. People go around bitching about other people who write a pairing different than theirs, calling them idiots or dumb because they cannot see "what it's so crystal clear for anyone with eyes and ears".

I think the difference in attitudes between the Gates and NCIS fandom is a trickle down from TPTB.

The Stargate TPTB didn't understand that fans were going to create their own vision no matter what was onscreen. They seemed convinced if they kept pushing ship, it would somehow kill slash, to the point where they would publically ridicule fans who didn't "see" what they had written (about the show in general and ships in particular).

They never got that even fans who liked what they were being shown could still having fun going in another direction. We don't have to be slaves to the canon. It's not like TPTB ever were either. *g*

NCIS, despite showing some canon ships (or at least flirting heavily with the idea) now and again, always gave out slash and ship bait like candy. I'm pretty sure they knew exactly what they were doing -- they couldn't make everyone happy, so they gave everyone a little fanservice instead of putting all their eggs in one basket.

I might not ship and slash every possible pairing NCIS has to offer (and there's a lot), but I can almost always enjoy the fun stuff lacing every episode. I think I almost injured myself watching the scene where Gibbs and Tony are getting out of the truck in Arizona, with the background song having a line about "not being as straight as I thought." ;)
youngenigma1701 From: youngenigma1701 Date: 6th March 2009 18:19 (UTC) (Link)
Wow! Sounds like you've had a really great journey.

I enjoy reading all the different pairings out there. I think the big difference for me though is that while I can enjoy the other pairing they don't seem to really hit me as much as my OTPs do. I can read G/F,Gabby, and others and really enjoy them. But they don't make my heart skip a beat like G/D always will. Does that make sense?

Of course, I read in so many fandoms that it is hard to believe. I'm a complete romance-addict and so I am always searching for another pairing that I find amazing.
nakeisha From: nakeisha Date: 7th March 2009 15:25 (UTC) (Link)
*Hands over virtue cookie*

Thank you for reading - it's certainly been an interesting one.

It makes perfect sense, yes. Very much so. Ahhh. G/D *sighs happily*

*Smiles* Romance is good. And reading is good too.
nialla42 From: nialla42 Date: 8th March 2009 02:24 (UTC) (Link)
I forgot to mention... one reason I think LJ is generally more open about pairings is due to the setup.

With a list or forum, it's very easy for things to become influenced by the mod(s) likes and dislikes, even if they don't intend for that to happen. When disagreements happen, they have to mediate, and it's difficult to remain neutral when you personally don't see one of the ships in question. With LJ, if you don't like, just scroll on by and have a nice day.

It makes it much easier for me to be friends with those who don't always share the same preferences as I do, so I can scroll by when I'm not in the mood to discuss. When I am, I can discuss in a friendly manner and often agree with the POV when I don't always "see" the pairing myself.

I actually like seeing these outside perspectives, and it was difficult for me to discuss things like that in forums and lists without feeling like I was getting dogpiled by those who agreed with me in theory, but in practice were not willing to allow any other POV to be discussed.
nakeisha From: nakeisha Date: 8th March 2009 13:57 (UTC) (Link)
That is a good point about lists. I remember when I was first in fandom and was involved in Starsky & Hutch lists that were for both slash and gen fen - at least in theory.

Sadly the Mods were all very much hard core gen fans and so when anything arose (as it did) they often stepped in, not to moderate but to join in on the side of the gen fans. It wasn't nice - nothing like some other wars, but to me that isn't what being a Mod is about.

But also NCIS is different from other fandoms even here on LJ in how open to all pairings and how respectful fans are generally of other views.
birggitt From: birggitt Date: 19th March 2009 00:09 (UTC) (Link)
*enjoys the cookies*
This was such an interesting reading! And even as you know Ducky/Gibbs are my OTP, I can relate with this let's call it change?, because I had made that journey myself in others fandoms.
X Files, I went from shipping Mulder/Krycek (which, of course implied a lot of dark fic) to fall in love with Mulder/Skinner. Sometimes, this happens because the interaction between the characters changes. sometimes, is because you actually see the chemistry between more than one couple...
I'm mostly OTP, even when I change my ship, what I usually do is change my perception of that particular Universe, and keep my new one as OTP.
But, there are exceptions: in BtVS, I was multishipper. I mean, it was everywhere! het, slash, femmeslash!
And I could see all of them, lol!
And that translated to AtS, too. Except for fred, who annoyed me to no end, and Cordy/Connor, which make me go all ewwwwwwwwwwwww! I was reading pretty much any pairing.
Of course, wwhen you are dealing with vampires and werewolves, and demons, eternal love take a totally different meaning :)
And yes, I can see why people is shipping Gibbs/DiNozzo, or Gibbs/Timmy, or almost any combination into the team. They are all of them so close is easy to make the lap from "family" to "partner"
And I'm gonna keep my mouth shut. I'm not gonna say I'm not reading. Because, you know how it is: I can kick and scream, but, if you write it? I'm gonna read =D
nakeisha From: nakeisha Date: 19th March 2009 13:45 (UTC) (Link)
I'm glad you enjoyed the cookies.

Thank you. I'm pleased you enjoyed my 'NCIS ramble'.

Ah, that's interesting too. I've always seen Gibbs/Fornell, but given my 'hard core OTPness' had never read it. And I'm seen Gibbs/McGee for at least a couple of seasons now. But again didn't read it - mind you, not that there was anything to read *g*

I can understand that.

That must have made Buffyverse quite an exhilarating fandom to be in then, if you read everything. Did you read Gibbs/Buffy?

I have to say I preferred Fred as Ilyria (sp?) it was then I thought AA showed what a superb actress she was - and in fact what a superb actress she'd been playing Fred.

Well, yes, there is always that *g*

I have many 'seeing' levels, I admit. And I just do not under any of them see G/Di, but that isn't a problem, lots of people don't see G/D.

*Giggles* I think that's wise, given you read Jenny/Ziva and the other day DiNozzo/Ziva and you'd told me even I wasn't going to get you reading DiNozzo het *g*

*Hugs you* It really warms me so much, more than I can say, that you'll read it if I write it. Thank you.
slash4femme From: slash4femme Date: 1st April 2009 21:13 (UTC) (Link)
oh wow, how lovely. I just found and read this now, I have no idea how I missed it the first time. Really nice, and you mentioned me :~)
nakeisha From: nakeisha Date: 2nd April 2009 10:43 (UTC) (Link)
I'm glad you found it.

Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Yes, I did :-))) See, how you're corrupted me *g*
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