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Non-fannish views on fannish relationships
I always find it interesting to get non-fannish views on how we fans see characters and relationships. One reason for my interest is that the non-fan tends not have quite the same investment as we do, thus in some ways their views might be considered to be more objective than ours.

Mother popped over to see us today and we were talking about NCIS (which my parents both enjoy) and a certain relationship.

Mother and Father have been catching up with the last couple of NCIS episodes, including 'In The Dark'. Apparently during all the various Hollis scenes, Father kept telling Mann (as one does) to 'leave him (Gibbs) alone. He's not interested in you'. Which pretty much paraphrases J's comments when we saw the episode. Mother also said that Father has made the same kind of remarks in all of the Mann episodes and the various exchanges she and Gibbs have had.

And as neither J nor my father are the world's best in reading body language, facial expressions and subtleties, I think it makes their remarks even more telling. Also as Father has no idea about my interest in NCIS beyond the programme to enjoy, he isn't in any influenced by what I might think. Indeed, I hadn't discussed Gibbs relationship with Mann at all with either of my parents. And to be fair, J wouldn't make comments just to keep me happy (not that I know for certain that he does know about my Gibbs/Ducky devotion); he calls it how he sees it.

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bjjones From: bjjones Date: 21st May 2007 17:41 (UTC) (Link)
It's fascinating to see others perceptions. For example my mom - though she knows I write fanfic - and knows about me writing slash - though we have a strick don't ask don't tell policy :)

Her comment when seeing Boa Vista on miami for the first time - this is after a few episodes she got them taped from me and I hadn't said much on the character

Who the hell is she and who did she sleep with to get the role...

I love my mommy..
nakeisha From: nakeisha Date: 22nd May 2007 10:15 (UTC) (Link)
Good policy.

And they can be so insightful at times :-)
caffyolay From: caffyolay Date: 21st May 2007 18:57 (UTC) (Link)
Well P (non-fandom, obviously) made up his own mind that he loathed Jen... no prompting from me whatsoever. We're neither of us keen on Dinozzo's girlfriend either, she's weird somehow... No comment from P about Hollis yet (I'll ask at some stage) but I feel sure that relationship won't last, they're just not *right* for each other. ;-P
nakeisha From: nakeisha Date: 22nd May 2007 10:18 (UTC) (Link)
Hee, go P!

Jeanne is 'weird' indeed. One minute I rather like her, the next . . . There she is a doctor and yet the next second she's behaving like the 'traditional' romance heroine.

Hollis . . . *Shudder* Of course you haven't yet seen the ep to which I refer. I shall be interested to hear if P, in particular, passes comment on Mann then!

And indeed they are so not right for one another. Silly woman!
erehwon6 From: erehwon6 Date: 21st May 2007 21:18 (UTC) (Link)
Cool :)
My parents watch NCIS with me, but don't really comment much. Though having watched 'Yankee White' Mum was convinced of UST between Gibbs & Kate.

Anyway with G/H for it to be so obvious the writers must be doing it on purpose, which makes it interesting to watch and see how it all pans out.
nakeisha From: nakeisha Date: 22nd May 2007 10:20 (UTC) (Link)
I thought so too.

I can see how your mum could have seen that.

I would hope it's that. I really would. So bets on what she hits him with :-)
erehwon6 From: erehwon6 Date: 22nd May 2007 13:36 (UTC) (Link)
Good :)

True, I hadn't really thought of it that way until she said (because I don't ship G/K).

Though you might.
LOL hmm don't know; some kind of sporting equipment I suppose, to keep with the theme ... hockey stick?
aingeal8c From: aingeal8c Date: 21st May 2007 21:55 (UTC) (Link)
I think that says it all. If more casual viewers can see it (and the body language is obvious) it's pretty darn obivious. GMTA ;-)

My mother didn't mind Mann at first but by her second appearance...well...

You parents clearly have excellent taste :-)
nakeisha From: nakeisha Date: 22nd May 2007 10:27 (UTC) (Link)
I think so too. After all we fen look for things like this, the casual viewer, like my parents and your mum, don't.

I didn't mind Mann at first either, but . . .

They do indeed. Just like your mum.
aingeal8c From: aingeal8c Date: 22nd May 2007 10:40 (UTC) (Link)
Yep and one might say we are somewhat biased ;-)

I wasn't too bad but having read some spoliers I knew where she was going. Why can't these people write better women?

Thank you :-)
ashley_pitt From: ashley_pitt Date: 21st May 2007 23:44 (UTC) (Link)
I showed this pic to a non-NCIS viewer( who happens to be gay) and he said "oh my!"
nakeisha From: nakeisha Date: 22nd May 2007 10:20 (UTC) (Link)
:-) Well what else can one say. It's most certainly 'oh, my' :-)
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nakeisha From: nakeisha Date: 22nd May 2007 10:29 (UTC) (Link)
Well quite. That was my feeling.

I didn't think that Mann wasn't *too* bad in the first ep, but after that she went downhill at a high rate of knots. You just have to wonder why she was written that way; plus the way she is in her personal life just doesn't gel with her position of an Army CID Lt. Col.
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