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For those of you who hate the planned new site scheme and are happily thinking 'oh, it's okay, I'll just go on using XColibur or Dystopia' (a comment I have seen expressed on my f-list and over LJ generally), don't be too certain that you'll be able to.

From the off-set I had this 'feeling' (akin to Gibbs's gut), that this new design was going to be 'the' design, albeit in two variations - horizontal and vertical. However, given the amount of people who'd said 'they'd just go on using their current one', I thought maybe I was wrong.

A few days ago LJ were asking people to suggest names for this new scheme (I don't think they'll be going with some of the suggestions), and I decided it might be a good place to try to ascertain whether they would still be around. Thus, I asked burr86, one of the LJ Development Team, who has been very good at answering questions in various forums, and has encouraged people to ask them, whether the existing schemes would still exist when the new one came into being.

The first time I asked, he didn't answer; he answered other bits of my post, but not that part. So I asked again. This was his response:

Regarding the existing site schemes -- I'm not 100% sure, but I think they're going to continue to be around. (I'm always hesitant to respond to these sorts of questions because I don't have a definite answer, so if I say what I think is going to happen, it's going to get quoted from here to Kansas and back if we end up doing something different. :P )

So it is not definite that the existing schemes will still be around in their existing format. And once again my feeling is that they won't be; that the new beta scheme will indeed become 'the' site scheme, albeit with the choices of horizontal and vertical, and that XColibur and Dystopia will no longer be around.

Maybe I'm just being cynical (see, blktauna, I can be too), but . . . Well, if I were burr86 and I'd been asked that question, if I really didn't know the answer then I'd have said 'I don't know, but I'll try to find out for you', but that's just the way I do things. Sadly I've seen too many of these kind of 'I'm not 100% sure, but...' things, not on LJ per se, but in the world generally, and usually my experience has been that the answer to the question is 'no', but the person doesn't want to say, because they know they'll be some kind of backlash. But, that's probably just me. He probably genuinely doesn't know; after all, there's no reason for him to lie to me, is there? Maybe LJ haven't made the decision yet.

Anyway, I thought that some of you might be interested in this ramble.

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gilda_elise From: gilda_elise Date: 29th July 2006 14:22 (UTC) (Link)
I was totally out of the loop here so I followed the link to the new site scheme. It sounds like they're trying to drum up business, which makes pissing off their customer base somewhat stupid. I'm not entirely sure how what they're planning will affect me; are the two schemes named the most popular? Is it the idea that getting around LJ will be harder, which sort of goes against what they're trying to do, or that the "look" of it will change that's the problem for most people? So far, I've managed to blithely carry on with any changes they've made, but this one sounds major.
From: blktauna Date: 29th July 2006 14:49 (UTC) (Link)
oh it'll affect you. trust me.
gilda_elise From: gilda_elise Date: 30th July 2006 02:39 (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, I was afraid someone was going to say that.
nakeisha From: nakeisha Date: 29th July 2006 16:28 (UTC) (Link)
The idea is that the current schemes are 'too complicated', new people can't figure out how to even make a post, so they toddle off away from LJ. Hence the new layout is meant (I say meant as I tried it for a while) to make things easier.

They have asked for detailed feedback, and I know they've got a lot, and I understand from the guy I mentioned above, that some of these are being implemented. However, how many is anyone's guess. Nothing major I would guess.

If my 'gut' is correct, then we'll be saying goodbye to the schemes we currently use, and have no choice but to use the 'beta' scheme as either vertical or horizontal.
gilda_elise From: gilda_elise Date: 30th July 2006 02:46 (UTC) (Link)
Oh, wonderful. I'm beginning to think these people are worse than Yahoo.
aingeal8c From: aingeal8c Date: 29th July 2006 14:30 (UTC) (Link)
Thanks for that news.

It does indeed sound ominus. I do think he doesn't want the backlash, that perhaps the descion is still up in the air or mabe they will just sneak it in.

I really don't like the beta one though.

nakeisha From: nakeisha Date: 29th July 2006 16:29 (UTC) (Link)
You're welcome.

I actually (minx that I am) thanked him and asked whether he could actually find out for me - watch this space.

I don't like the beta one either, it's far less user-friendly and intuitive, if you ask me.
aingeal8c From: aingeal8c Date: 29th July 2006 17:44 (UTC) (Link)
I actually (minx that I am) thanked him and asked whether he could actually find out for me - watch this space.

Ooo now that was a good idea. I do hope something comes of it.

I don't like the beta one either, it's far less user-friendly and intuitive, if you ask me.

I agree and to suggest it's hard to use - it's pretty easy for figure out. Perhaps if they weren't so intent on adding more silly bell and whistles people would find it easier?

And I am still shocked they are getting rid of Frank.
nakeisha From: nakeisha Date: 30th July 2006 14:59 (UTC) (Link)
I do hope something comes of it.

As yet, nada. Which to my cynical mind says everything!

I agree and to suggest it's hard to use - it's pretty easy for figure out. Perhaps if they weren't so intent on adding more silly bell and whistles people would find it easier?

Well quite!!!!!!

And I am still shocked they are getting rid of Frank.

Me too :-(
From: blktauna Date: 29th July 2006 14:48 (UTC) (Link)
These people lie like a rug.
They totally plan on removing xcolibur and dystopia.
And S1.

For whatever their stupid marketing purposes they are going to do it whether we like it or no. Now that they see the hostility they are just covering until such time as they spring it on us fait accompli. Rather like the bar.

I feel for the paid users. Its going to be a serious mess, which I am now, thankfully not invested in.

You see also that Frank the goat is going and ads are appearing in his place on the home page. Just you wait, my dear.
nakeisha From: nakeisha Date: 29th July 2006 16:31 (UTC) (Link)
These people lie like a rug.

:-) And I thought I was being cynical.

They totally plan on removing xcolibur and dystopia.

That is my feeling, I must say.

Now that they see the hostility they are just covering until such time as they spring it on us fait accompli.

I've actually asked him whether he can find out - we'll see if he answers.

I did indeed see about Frank :-(
maubast From: maubast Date: 29th July 2006 15:41 (UTC) (Link)
It's all very sad. I hate these (IMO) stupid, unneccessary changes.
nakeisha From: nakeisha Date: 29th July 2006 16:32 (UTC) (Link)
I agree entirely, my dear.
dragonmuse From: dragonmuse Date: 31st July 2006 00:31 (UTC) (Link)
Definitely interested, despite the bleak outlook. Being cynical myself it doesn't surprise me, and I'm trying to remain as apathetic towards this as possible (after all, what does my opinion matter to LJ?), but I'm glad I know now all the same. I like to know what's going on around me, even if I don't know what to say or do about it. *grin* So thanks for the update. :)
nakeisha From: nakeisha Date: 31st July 2006 16:27 (UTC) (Link)
You're very welcome.

Sadly, I don't think any of our opinions matter to LJ - not really :-(
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